This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. This cartridge began the " Magnum era" of handgun ammunition. Speaking of bullets, the .357 is one of the best cast-bullet rounds ever, so add a lead pot, a mould, and a pan of lube to the kit. Why Marlin didnt make a 336 in .357 I will never understand. https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/henry-big-boy-steel-357-magnum-38-special-lever-action-rifle. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:36 pm, Post No, the article actually shows period photos of guys wearing cross slings with clips on the end that attached to the rifle, so they could let it dangle by their legs. Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. And one 1886 Winchester 45-70 takedown model, ( rare). 30-30 is always a good option. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. But they do fit nicely behind a seat. CONDIT OUR STOCK NUMBER: 13212 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: ROSSI.R-92 ACTION: LEVER RIFLE CALIBER: .357 MAGNUM/.38 SPECIAL BARREL: 24", OCTAGON FINISH: DARK BRAZILIAN HARDWOO ***HARD TO FIND TACTICAL-LEVER .357*** Citadel Levtac-92 lever-action rifle in .357 Magnum. The AR-15s in .223 are just glorified rabbit guns in my opinion. Barrel has only been to the range for load development. Cheap factory 158gr LRN is subsonic and stupid quiet for those that are complete hereticslike meand suppress their levers. Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! I settled on Accurate 1680 propellant. Proof-fired it and it stood up. The old tooling is long gone now. Custom barrels made by the best of the custom TC barrel manufacturers! Factory triggers dont come much, if any, better than the k frames., I have to agree. Model 1873 and cowboyskinda synonymous. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. Do you have a case length limitation in your state for a straight wall case? It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. There were two major complaints with the Max, both having to do with powder gas erosion. Hornady XTP 158 gr. I always attempt to stay in the mid range of the reload manual. What would be the right bullet? Just ask! Depending on how hot the load is. JM all day but damn are they pricey if you can find them at all. THROATS SHORTER THAN MINE WILL INCREASE PRESSURES. The long narrow case is not well suited to propellants much faster than the 2400-class propellants. As they are harder to find, I switched to PPU 158 JHP with little change for sighting in. Note: A complete article about the .357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge . Brand: Winchester Firearms. My factory Maxi is a 1982 also. 05-25-2020 . (Winchester 94) and .22lr (Marlin 39A x2) with various accompanying sidearms. I own lots of guns..I just like a lever rifle best for fun and utility. .357 Maximums and the 9x72R, an old German rifle cartridge. But that being said, your S&W 8 shot Revolver is a nice pistol. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. I kept still hoping that they couldnt climb a tree. About 5 deer have fallen to that rifle/bullet combo, all of the bang-flop's at about 80 yards. 008-E503841 | MTM. Thats relevance! The 8 grains of unique seem like fairly hot loads out of the rifle. But muh tactical! you say? It brings the 38+p up to mid-range 357 revolver ballistics (~1250). I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. If a customer takes possession of the firearm, Intrepid considers this acceptance of the condition, and will not offer a return. .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. The Story of my life it seems. This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. Bingo. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? tend to do quite well in the .357 Maximum. Low supplies and very high demand. $150 if you take the simple route leaving the Henry forend on, (This for the extra handling and care packaging to protect the wood finish.). While the cartridge produces around 1200 ft/lbs of energy, which is more than a .44 Magnum, it also has less recoil. Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. This was a blue-collar sport that could be pursued at relatively modest cost, using handloads in a rock-bottom minimum battery of one powerful revolver. They usually hide it by using a 24" barreled rifle. I REALLY wish Mossberg would make that hideous SPX Tactical in .357. I have a 94 Trapper in 357 Magnum that I rechambered to 357 Maximum. Slip Top 50 Red Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. The 1873 Deluxe Sporting is that classic rifle, dressed to the nines with a color-case hardened finish and checkered pistol grip. Gun shows are your salvation. I have been wanting one for years now and always seem to miss the boat as they sell out quickly. Common sense Gun Safety . There are even night sights available from aftermarket suppliers. I shot 180 hardcast lead both from Buffalo Bore and HSM bear loads. It could even work for breech-seating. With higher-performance loads, the .357 carbine almost delivers real rifle ballistics. Its blue with a 16.5 inch barrel. im looking to trade for a 357 lever action.. Good luck.hope you brought your best marbles.. We were amazed at the penetration. I just checked Davidsons, my primary national wholesaler. I wish I had bought more..or kept more ..lol. Now Rechambering Henry Single Shot .357 Magnum Rifles! I have not seen a 357 max levergun but, I have a Marlin 336 that is chambered in 375 Supermag. I chose not to raid the checking account for a c-note more and have been kicking myself since. This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. Dies, a dipper set and some components and you are gtg. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. Please contact us with any questions, or for purchase options. Going price was 399.they didnt have any..but said they had a 45 Long Colt at a discount 299easy decision. Funny, but what popped into my head was Arkansas and Alaska arent benighted states. by Chris83716 Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 pm, Post . A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. And .45-70 would be awesome, too. I like the combo. Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. of AA-1680 give top velocities and energies for shots upwards of 250 yards or more with 180 gr bullets from 24 barrels. I think my Henry BB 45 Colt is my fav. Description. . Rossi 92 is one of the best purchases Ive ever made. I have shot a buddys 357, think it was Italian, a couple times as he is into Cowboy Action..not my thing but fun to watch! NEVER JAM BULLETS INTO THE RIFLINGS! 1830 fps 100 yds 1427 fps 200 yds 1138 fps 158 gr. . This is not an issue for single-shot firearms, and the long bullet cleared the rifling in the pressure barrel and our T/C barrels. Seldom has any new gun/ new cartridge combination failed so quickly.Ruger's long-framed Blackhawk was first to market in two barrel lengths. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. The most Fun guns I own. Im still waiting for someone to make a 357 in. I made a Magneto V3 adapter on the cheap, Dirt cheap UPS has officially stopped shipping guns. by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. Long loaded 357 Mag should still be accurate in the 360 and are great for fun shooting. Marlin changed the sliding top strap to a sliding sidewall, therefore making the rifle side-ejecting. (I bought a Glenfield 30A at a gunshow for $200 about 5 years ago. by groschen1936 Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am, Post It came back looking like new. Clearly, these articles (and other ones like this article) hit a receptive ear/eye in the gun buying public and they say Imma get me sumodat! and poof! While visiting Rugers New Hampshire facility in 1985, I learned that when the company built the California Highway Patrol Commemorative model of the No. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-marlin-1894c-357-magnum/, The review after Wild West Guns rescued it: It can really thump that shoulder. It shoots factory PMC 158 gr soft points into a half inch at 50 yards. In the many years since, however, Ive shot pretty much every common handgun caliber and own a dozen or so of them and, still, something about that .357 just works the best. It may not display this or other websites correctly. That feature was what was holding me back from buying one. The last time I sent a gun off for some work was a chiappa revolver 2 years ago. The Alaskan combines tradition wit NO Credit Card Fees Like the Other Guys!! Comes with original Colt wood and rubber grips Sig Sauer P2340 .357 caliber with a 4in. Apples should be in pie. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. Guns can be fun. The chrony doesnt lie: .357 levers punch well above their weight: Nothing slimmer or quicker to get into action. But after losing popularity due to gas cutting issues, this chambering was eventually dropped by all manufacturers. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:57 pm, Post Full rechamber to .357 MAXimum or .350 Legend for energy levels on par with .300 Savage or moderate .308 Winchester loads and a bonafide 250 yard rifle. Henry is close with SPX but went plastic stock.DOH! using H4227 and H110. In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. 4" Barrel. Gun Genius. Count yourself lucky They are getting to very hard to find! But those new X models are very hard to get now. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. 1. I would absolutely use it for home D without a second thought. Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. The more the merrier. Even my Walmart has 30-30 ammo now. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. Fully agree with this. The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum. Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. Model 29 and Marlin stainless 1894 in 44. Our public range requires that spent brass be picked up. Firearms returned for any reason other than damage or undisclosed conditions will be subject to a 10% restocking fee. Night and day in service and I didnt have to wait over a month. T/Cs Contender pistol was also a natural for this cartridge, and it was a popular chambering. But what if we wanted the right bullet for the occasional hyena, baboon, wallaby or racoon, say a 180-220 grain soft bullet propelled along at about 1200 feet per second? . If you have some, enjoy them. Im just trying to figure out why in the hell a Marlin 357 lever gun has to retail at nearly 3 times what the same gun in 30-30 retails for. Reloading has nothing to do with it.. And, I AM a Vietnam in-country veteran, Gomer. I'd bet you well over 90 percent of all IHMSA ammo was loaded on the shooter's bench. I take the time to dial in bores, do all throating separately forthe best co-axial alignment of the throat with the bore, and cut a few tenths of a thousandth tighter throat. They both have Constitutional carry! I saw your reference to benighted states and then AR, AK. The object was to knock down all five targets in two minutes. I always liked the cowboy combo concept of carbine/sidearm same caliber and own lever actions in .44 mag. Shipping to your FFL by insured FedEx Ground will be $45. But its the old Supply and demand scenario. The world's most powerful firearm database. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" The Apostle Paul in Romans 1:22 . For some reason it's hard to exceed what 2400 can do in the .357 mag, but H110/W296 and lil gun should also be viable options. No bloody wonder that Remingtons in bankruptcy again. Every bullet tested shot very well, and we did not have any key-holing whatsoever on any of the projectiles. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. It fails to cause antis to have uncontrollable, explosive decompression of the space inside the colon? Theyre also legal everywhere, even states with the most draconian gun control. If you compare a 16" 30-30 to a 16" .357 Mag, the difference is even smaller. (Photo: Winchester) Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. With a tuned lever action, you can unload 10 rounds in about 3 seconds: https://youtu.be/h1Wcy8HRQUo?list=TLPQMjcwNzIwMjC2VftOeStKpQ. Long guns get in the way. I have seen a gun blow up (not mine) and therefore I am very careful when I reload. Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. Best .357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifles. Give me a blued steel finish with walnut, no plastics or laminates please!!! When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. Own Stock. In short order, there was a Ruger Blackhawk Maximum and ammo to go with it.Ruger was not the only party on the Maximum bandwagon. First and foremost is that all the straight-walled cartridges in this article max out at somewhat close range. Thats info that will come in handy. I can even hunt with both in some neighboring states, and do. Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. We will take a look back at a stock revolver and its misunderstood cartridge called the .357 Maximum.Originally conceived by the late Elgin Gates and called the .357 SuperMag, the new round was very straightforward. Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. Just, reading the article reminded me about it. I just picked up a Ruger #1 CHP 357mag that will be going to the gun smyth next week to have the chamber stretched to da Max. For complete guns, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. You have my (good natured) envy. Working range would be 50-70 yards. The Model X in .357 magnum is super compact with an overall length of just 36.3 inches. Here is a link to an article that may answer some questions. 45-70. Show Only Non-Guns. Other brands and types of lead core handgun bullets tend to blow up and not penetrate into vital organs when driven at rifle velocities close in. The .357 Rem. The regular Marlin 1894C is priced at around $700. Ruger developed a Blackhawk specifically for the cartridge, but word of barrel erosion and "flame cutting" came to light quickly and production of the revolver was ceased with only about 400 produced. Found a gunsmith who examined it, he got it working again. 357 maximum rifle For Sale 1000+ Listings Found Page 1 of 317 1 2 3 . I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. No joke. Significantly disappointed and I reopened another repair ticket. I would think the old school lever lovers and the black rifle guys could come together on this. Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. Additionally, .357 Magnum lever action rifles can accept optics as most are pre-tapped for scopes and can easily be fit for a tactical rail. I doubt nothing that Taffin says, but we both know that no gun maker will ever live with that kind of visible damage.But let's step back and look at what the .357 Maximum was designed to do. Never again Marlin, shouldve bought another Henry. They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. The 1873 was one of the most popular lever action rifles of all time. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. A bit heavy, if I had to buy it again, Id pick a shorter, lighter barrel version but I am not unhappy with the gun. Winchester Model 1873. Yes, tactical Virginia, you can put a red dot on a lever gun. Good thought though. While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. [2] Shortly thereafter, Dan Wesson Firearms and Thompson/Center Arms introduced firearms in this cartridge. Bfh_auto Member Joined: Feb 23, 2016 Messages: 6,502 In single shot rifles or pistols, I would choose the max. MGM's chamber is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and target shooters! The trigger is even really nice for a lever gun and I own a bunch of them. lets say it was well used and not maintained. Paper patch an almost pure lead 380 to 400 gr bullet and it will do a number on an critter waaaaay out there even propelled with black powder but you have to know where your rifle shoots at what yardage. Discuss. SAAMI documents dated 2005 list it as inactive.. Factory triggers dont come much, if any, better than the k frames. Ive been at the range many times when people in adjacent lanes started talking about trigger quality and, when I let them fire that old 19, the response is usually just, wow. This beefed up, elongated .357 Magnum has also been chambered in Dan Wesson revolvers as well as several single shot rifles and pistols including the T/C Contender. Sounds like Remington/Marlin customer service and repair has gone straight to hell. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a 9mm brass-case FMJ is pushing .40 cents a round for the cheap stuff and I dont see the price dropping anytime soon. Supply and demand. Brand: Winchester. It can shoot 38 special 357 magnum and 357 maximum. Or the new Marlin Dark series for a little more money. It is the .357 Remington Maximum. by Hobie Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:55 pm, Post Perfect for those states with straight wall case limits and/or overall cartridge case length limits where in most cases the .45 cal. We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. To reload the .357, a Lee Loader is all you need, plus a supply of primers, a pound of powder and bullets. 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 The old Ford Pickup had that seatback that folded forward. When Remington put the special round into production, it got a new (and prophetic) name: .357 Maximum. Id tend to agree with you. Slick set up that kept a rifle close to hand and out of sight. The Hodgdon site gives loads for bullets from 110 gr. Max. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. They averaged 1810fps out of my Marlin. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. Free shipping for many products! I agree. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. It took only a few rounds to actually erode (read cut) that section. Rechambering to bottle neck cartridges with additional for handling and converting extractor for rimless cases, from $205. It carries easy, at 6- lbs, with swivel studs coming standard (as does a hammer block safety) and has a large loop for fast cycling. You can even shoot .38 Special for some of the easiest long gun plinking youll ever do. Smooth as butter. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. Finding component will likely be tough though. Khalil, Ive got one in .327 Fed Mag and Im here to tell you IT IS SWEET!! Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. The three taped holes were 20.0 gr. IMHO, go custom. bullets and 1800 (+) fps from 10" barrels at the short end of barrel lengths. Returns MUST be left with the transferring dealer. took a good cleaning and now it shoots very well. 38 special. For them a pistol caliber Lever carbine makes a lot of sense. Back in the day. Even if production revolvers missed the test barrel velocities by 200 fps, they produced enough muzzle velocity to achieve good terminal performance from softpoints giving better penetration. The option for a MAG chamber lets you load published .357 MAXimum loads in the MAGnum case: Henry wisely chose the old, original closed breech barrel chamber with a very short forcing cone, as opposed to the current overly long forcing cone chamber that is essentially the same as a "shot out" barrel used by nearly all other manfacturers. Geoff: Nope, not yet. You get the best of both the classic function of a lever gun with modern improvements. The first loads I worked up were with Speers 0.358-inch 180-grain FNSP intended for the .35 Remington. I use handguns for everyday carry. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. Nobody shoots the .357 Max because no manufacturer chambers their firearms for it these days!" In a rifle, this cartridge is easy on the shoulder, making it a natural for new shooters. My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. . It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? Per ballistics charts, and generally speaking due to all the variables from different cartridge loads, a .357 Mag out of a carbine rifle barrel approaches the muzzle velocity and energy of a .44 Mag from a handgun. Worried about scratching that brass?